1964 World Grand
GLL's Carbon Copy #620913
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GLL’s Carbon Copy was sired by the 1959 World
Grand Champion, Rodgers’ Perfection, and was out of Midnight Doll, a
daughter of Midnight Sun.
Midnight Mack K., the sire of Rodgers’ Perfection was also by Midnight
Sun, giving Carbon Copy Grand Champion parentage on both sides of his
pedigree. The breeder of
Carbon Copy was Dr. Porter R. Rodgers of Searcy, Arkansas.
He was part owner with Howard Binns of Little Rock, Arkansas at
the 1962 Celebration when this great horse was tied first in the event
shares in this champion were sold following his two-year-old
championship to Pete Raney and Dr. T. J. Raney of Little Rock,
and to his trainer, Joe Webb of Searcy.
These five were the owners in 1963 when this handsome son
of Rodgers’ Perfection was tied second in the event for junior
Stallions, and was named Reserve Junior Champion Walking Horse
over some of the best competition ever exhibited at a
Copy was undoubtedly one of the most popular World Grand
Champions of all time.
This black stallion had, in addition to his beautiful
conformation, the three distinct gaits of the true Walking
horse. He was a
perfect model for the breed in both looks and manners as well as
in action. In addition, Joe Webb trained him to obey voice and whistle
signals while unmounted.
Carbon Copy would entertain the continuing crowd of
visitors at his training stable with a brisk performance of all
his gaits without a rider.
At the onset of his training both Dr. Rodgers and Joe Webb declared
him to be a better walking horse than his sire was at the same age.
Each account of Carbon Copy’s progress held this statement to
be true. These two men
had known both horses from the day they were foaled until each won the
World Grand Championship.
Copy was the winner of the Stallion Class of 1964,
defeating 44 other top stallions.
He continued his success that Celebration, by defeating
13 other finalists in the Stakes Class on Saturday night, by
unanimous vote of all the judges.
In November of
1964, George Lee Lenox of Memphis, Tennessee purchased Carbon Copy and
the champion was retired from the show ring at the Southern
Championship Horse Show in Montgomery.
He went on to sire two World Grand Champions - Shades of Carbon
in 1976 and Mark of
Carbon in 1978.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:03 AM
When I was little, my gramma used to take me every year to the
American Royal in KC. I was only about 10 when I saw Perfection’s
Carbon Copy for the first time, but he took my breath and my heart
away. When he took off, it was like there was no other horse in the
ring. He flew. That isn’t exaggeration. He was stunning. Every year
after that, I just *had* to go the last night of the Royal to see
the Walkers. The first thing I would do when I got the program was
turn to the last page and look for his name. But he never returned.
He is burned like a shooting star into my memory, though. I will
never forget him.
I enjoyed your email and could relate to your experience 100%. First
off, I remember how impressive it was to see Joe Webb riding Carbon
Copy. I had the pleasure of attending Joe Webb's first adult
training school in Searcy, AR in 1971. Got to ride a number of his
great show horses - and we became good friends.
But the real reason I can relate to your experience is that I grew
up on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and lived across the street from
Gulf Park College. They gave riding lessons on American Saddlebreds
and since they couldn't beat me off with a stick, they put me in
classes and taught me to ride. When I was about 10 years old they
took me with them to the Dixie Jubilee Horse Show in Baton Rouge and
I loved the Tennessee Walking Horse classes at the show. And when
White Star came into the ring (she was the 1954 World Grand Champion
Tennessee Walking Horse and the last mare to win the World Grand
Championship) it took my breath away. It was surreal....I knew right
then and there that I would always have Tennessee Walking Horses. So
you see, I can really relate to your experience in seeing
Perfection's Carbon Copy and how beautiful he was.
Mary Ellen Areaux
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:04 PM
Subject: Carbon Copy
I googled Carbon Copy for a pic on something else that I was posting
and ran across your tribute page.
My name is Mark Welsh, my father is David Welsh. We stood Carbon
Copy at stud at Shadow Valley Farm in Shelbyville back in the 70's.
He was a great horse and one that many old timers remember well.
What I wanted to add to the discussion as many others noted, was the
greatness of his trainer, Joe Webb. Joe was a horseman par
excellence! He and Dad were good friends and I know that the
business lost a great one when Joe passed on.
I asked Dad once when I was younger who was his "hero" when he was
growing up (Dad started showing at the Celebration in the late
1940's as a teen). Dad said Sam Paschal but he also said that among
his peers, Joe Webb was by far the best trainer he had ever seen.
Another little known fact: Mr Lennox started a club back in the
middle 60's of horsemen he admired called the Carbon Copy Club
(invitation only), there was a story about it at the time written by
editor Bruce Spencer in the "Voice" magazine along with pictures. We
had lost that edition over the years but I wrote to Sharon Brandon
and asked her if she remembered it and if she had a copy. She did
and sent me a photostat copy in the mail of that article. The
trainers listed are the ones that I had to watch Dad compete against
growing up but they were also his friends. They included: Sam
Paschal, Donald Paschal, Joe Webb, Charlie Bobo, Dickie and Russell
Pate, Hershall Talley, Wink Groover, Marvin Wilson, Doug Wolaver,
Dad, and about a dozen others.
Great memories of my youth growing up on the show circuit.
I remember Mr. & Mrs. Lennox on Holmes Rd. Germantown TN...
When I was 24 years old my aunt Billie Dale took me to visit Mrs.
Lennox, who was her neighbor. Mrs. Lennox was very
receptive and extremely nice. We walked to Carbon Copy's
stall. I distinctly remember the glass wall in his stall
afforded an overnight guest the opportunity to look at him as though
he were an object to be viewed through a picture window.
It was the 60's and Carbon Copy's stall was far superior to many
houses of the era.
walked to the large barn area where a groom was walking a young colt
of about 12 months and he said to me, "Do you know how much this
horse cost?" I glanced and quickly replied,
$10,000..That's right he said! That colt looked just like
I was in
awe as we walked outside towards our car, when here came Mr.
Lennox riding Carbon Copy up the driveway and I remember the
white fence as we walked and I stared at horse and rider. He was
a beautiful animal and it was obvious that Mr. Lennox was very
fond of him. The Lennoxes were very happy together and enjoyed their
beautiful home and the horses. My aunt Billie thought the world
of Mrs. Lennox.
aunt Billie lives in Florida and she will be 91 this year. And I
am no longer in my 20's as I will shortly be 60.
Germantown, Tennessee was a beautiful place and the Home of
Carbon Copy only made it more attractive...thank you.
Comments: I want to take this opportunity to say a great big THANK YOU
to you and your wonderful site.
I was raised riding and showing TW Horses. As a child, I loved
them and then when I got into my teenage years, it was just a job that
had to be done. Then in my 20's and 30's I got to the point that if I
never saw another horse, it would be way to soon. But then when I hit
my 40's, and my daddy got so sick with cancer and before his death, I
went back to my roots, and again fell in love with the breed.
Now, I look back at the memories of my childhood, and can finally
appreciate, how lucky I was to have had the honor of riding some the
best TW horses ever born. You see, by the age of fifteen, I had
ridden, Carbon Copy, Mark of Carbon and the Entertainer, just to name
a few of the great horses that I had the privilege of being around.
My father, Bob Pyland, worked for Joe Webb, at Searcy, AR. Being
the tomboy I am, I was with daddy every chance I could, which meant I
was at the barn all the time. I wish I could take you'll back in
my memory, and that you'll could see some of the wonderful memories
that I have of being at this barn.
After a time, my family moved here to MO and daddy continued to train
and show horses. About this time in my life, I got the job of
helping daddy in the barn. I got so that I dreaded the very idea
of a horse. You know, I was going through my idiot years.
I then married and got completely away from horses.
Then daddy got sick and the more I was around him and the more I got
to listening to him talk, I realized that the love of the TWH had
never left me, I had just left it.
After nearly 20 years of not attending any horse shows, I attended my
first one again in September of 2000, 8 months after daddy's death.
It was the most wonderful, heart rendering and touching show I can
remember. I cried through most of it. For the loss
of my father, for the loss of my childhood and mostly, for the great
honor of being around the most beautiful breed of horse that will ever
Again, thank you for the wonderful site, the beautiful photos, and
especially, for the old photos, which brought back so many wonderful
Becky Pyland Davis
Original Message -----
From: "Becky Pyland Davis"
To: "Mary Areaux"
Subject: Thank You
Thank you so very much for the kind words. ......One of the things I
will never forget, is how Joe could make Copy and the Entertainer,
both go through all gaits, both ways of the ring, without a rider
being on the horse. He would use voice commands. It was
wild. One time when I was old enough to understand what was
going on, Joe had some visitors at the barn, there were always
visitors. Anyway, he had it fixed up inside the barn, where you
could go into the lounge, set on the back of the couch and look out a
great big huge glass window and watch a horse being worked.
Well the lounge was full and Joe had sent me after Copy. Okay,
no big deal, but Joe could tell Copy to do anything and Copy would do
it. He had Copy trained, so that when you walked into his stall,
that Copy would go to the corner of the stall and turn and face you.
No big deal, but, I was scared of Copy for I had fallen off of him the
day before while riding him. The poor old horse done everything
he could to keep me from falling. But fall I did. Then he
stopped, right there in his tracks, and turned around and was looking
at me. Here I was, not even 9 years old yet, and laying on the
ground flat of my back, trying to get my breath and here comes this
big horse who I felt had just tried to kill me. He walked up to
me and kept reaching down with his nose and nudging me. When you
are laying a flat of your back and looking up at a horse and all you
can see is legs, and I mean a lot of legs that just went on forever.
All I could do was scream. Every time I screamed, it would scare
Copy and he would jump back. But he kept trying to nudge
me with his nose and I kept screaming. Daddy and Joe got to me
and I remember how Copy was just standing there quivering all over.
I decided I was going to live after all, and daddy made me get back on
him. I screamed louder. Didn't do any good, for Joe looked
at me in that tone of voice and told me if I ever wanted to come back
to that barn, I had to get back on the horse. I got back on.
Anyway, when I walked in Copy's stall, he started quivering again,
and there we stood. Bean-O, a colored man that worked for Joe,
and my daddy's best friend, told me I had better get hold of that
horse and bring him out of the stall before daddy got upset with it
taking me so long. Well, I lead him out and they got him all
saddled up. For some reason, Joe decided to take Copy to the
ring outside. He rode him and put him through all of his gaits.
He then got off of him, tied the reins up and proceeded to put him
through his gaits with no one on him. Things went great, the
first way of the ring. But the right of the ring, Joe had shut
him down to a flat walk and then asked him to canter. Well he
cantered. No big deal.
But, across the paved road from the barn and arena, was the old home
place of Porter Rodgers and the OLD barn where Rodgers Perfection was
trained. Out in the big pasture there, was where the brood mares
were. Well, apparently one of them was in heat, for every time
Copy was making the curve in the ring, he was turn his head and look
over at the brood mares. Well, when Joe called on him to canter
the second way of the ring, ole Copy canters, but on the last pass, he
cantered right on out the gait, that was open, across the the grass,
across the paved road and cantered right up to the fence where the
mares were. Like to have tickled me to death. All Joe
could say was, "Great day in the morning!!! Great Day!!!!" Great
Day was Joe's 'cuss' word. I was still laughing. Joe
looked down at me in that tone of voice again and all I could say was,
"Well, Mister Joe, at least he didn't cross fire." I got sent to
the barn. But Mary, it was so dang funny. Joe squalled at
Copy and he came right back to him immediately, and he did canter back
to Joe, but Joe was plumb put out with that horse that day.
got so bad sick with his cancer, he retired back to Lamar at the camp.
Daddy and I went to see him. He got up out of his bed and
wanted to walk down to the barn. Well, we did.
As we were passing by some brood mares, I got tickled. Daddy
knew why I was laughing, but Joe kept looking at me. He asked
what was so dang funny. I told him it was a shame that ole Copy
was gone, for I would love to see him one more time canter out to
those mares. Joe said, "Great Day' and then started laughing,
always felt that a great stud horse had to be left a little something
of his own. He told me that if you took everything always from a
stud horse when you were breaking him, that you would also break his
will. So every good stud horse Joe had, he left the horse a
little something of its own. Copy would do anything on voice command.
He was also a push button horse. He would do the work and make
the rider look good. However, Copy had one habit. Right
before a show, that horse would go berserk. There were not
enough grooms in the world to hold that horse down. When he was
saddled, has his tail brace on, ribbons in his mane, and was being
held for Joe to get there, it was a sight to behold. He would
kick, snort, stomp, blow and jump straight up in the air like a jack
rabbit. But as soon as Joe got on him, it was all over.
There have been times when folks would ask daddy why Copy always had
one ear back while he was being shown. Copy would always have
the ear away from the judge, down. Some asked if it was because
he was mean or mad, or is he was going so fast that it made his ear
lay down? But it wasn't any of these. Copy was listening to Joe.
Daddy and Joe would talk to him as they were working him. It was
Entertainer, he wasn't as good tempered as Copy. But he would
mind, did the voice commands, and most of the time was well behaved.
That was one tall horse. He would get nervous before going into
the show ring. So I would stand there while one of the grooms
was holding the reins waiting on Joe, and I would hold my hand out,
palm up and flat, and the Entertainer would take his teeth and nip on
the skin on the palm of your hand. It seemed to calm him.
He never bit or took a hunk, just little nips that would never break
One time Joe took him to the college there in Searcy for a football
game, Harding College, and Joe had just got back from winning his
class on him at the Celebration. Well, Joe and the Entertainer
were to be the half time entertainment. Joe was going to put him
through the paces for the crowd. The announcer came on, Joe climbed up
on Entertainer and then Joe took off. The only problem was, that
every time they came to the white marks on the grass where the yardage
was marked, Entertainer would do a dog hop over the line. Just
like a horse jumping a small stream or over a log. Every ten
yards the Entertainer would do a double step and leap over the white
mark. I fell down laughing. When they got to the 50 yard
line, that horse done an Alley-Oop and jumped real high and pitched
twice. I then really lost it. To finally get him to go
through his paces, we had to have him work on the outside of the side
lines. That was the only place he would work like he was suppose
to and not try and jump things. It was a very quite ride back to
the barn in the front of that truck that was pulling him home.
Mary Ellen, I am so sorry to have rambled on and on as I have, but I
have my horse fever up tonight and got to remembering the good ole
days. You'll take care and if I am ever in your area I will pay
you a visit.
Becky Pyland Davis
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 5:57 PM
Subject: Carbon Copy memories
I have to share
some very fond childhood memories with your about Carbon Copy. Our
Saddle Club would have dinners at the Lennox barn and I would get to
look at this great guy and Ace's Sensation at times. One time we were
there for another Walking horse function and Mr. Webb was there doing
and exhibition of Carbon Copy. I went to Mr. Webb's wonderful camp
when I was little. Well, anyway one night I was actually allowed to
sit and ride this great horse. What a wonderful memory that I will
----- Original Message -----
From: James Swafford
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: carbon copy
I can not talk about carbon copy but I can brag on one of his
offspring. My cousins bought a black stud colt in 1981 during the
celebration sales. When they brought him off the trailer at our barn
all the colt did was trot around in a circle. My Dad who was
training some then almost died. We didn't show him much that next
year but as a 3 year old he placed 9th at the celebration. He also
took me to a 3rd place tie at the celebration in 1990 and then took
my dad to the only ribbon he had ever won at the celebration a
couple of years later. Prince Copy must have been much like his
Daddy because at the shows he would pitch a fit until you were on
his back. However, he was one of the gentlest horses I can ever
remember and he would do a lot of things on voice command even with
someone commanding from the ground and someone on his back. He lived
until 2004 and when he died it was one of the saddest days that I
have ever had. He trained me to show and enjoy the fire that a great
horse really has while still being a gentle pet. In his last years
we had him turned out in the field and I was the only one that he
would come to. Thanks for letting me remember such a wonderful time
in my life
----- Original Message -----
To: James Swafford
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: carbon copy
Those are great memories - thanks for sharing. Isn't it wonderful
what these great Tennessee Walking Horses do for us. I love the fact
that they can be high strung on the one hand and gentle as a puppy
dog on the other.
Carbon Copy was such a great sire. I've had a number of his
daughters in for breeding over the years...and now grand and great
Mary Ellen Areaux
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Memories of Carbon Copy
This site brought back fond memories. As a child I spent a lot of
time at GLL Farms in Collierville where Carbon Copy was standing at
stud. My mom worked many years with Mr. Lenox and I loved the drive
out to their beautiful home fashioned from Arkansas fieldstone.
Carbon Copy was always so proud, lording it over the other horses
from his exceedingly grand, glassed-in stall! He would prance and
frolic like a colt even though he'd been retired for a number of
years, but whenever a groom would whistle just so, he would
immediately snap to attention. I remember being placed on his back a
number of times and he would walk with great care around his paddock
since he knew I was WAY too young to properly control a stallion!
When I got older I spent 4 or 5 great summers at Joe Webb's Riding
Camp in Lamar, Arkansas. I'm pretty sure my blue ribbon from camp is
somewhere at my parents' house to this day. Someone else on this
page mentioned Mr. Webb's head groom, Bean-O, and he was just great
with all the campers. He was always there, waiting to jump in when
one of the less experienced campers got into a "running walk" that
was over their heads! Additionally I could never forget the trail
rides up into the foothills, riding my buddy, the smallest pony at
camp, Red Fred. Thanks, Darren, for the loan! I was also privileged
to see Carbon Copy's son, Shades of Carbon, in training just weeks
before his win at The Celebration, and will always remember with
sadness another promising son, Master Copy, who fell while being
loaded onto a van and had to be put down. Thank you for your
memorial to a wonderful, enduring champion.
Laura Mize Trylong
Germantown, Tn and Chicago, Il
Thank you for
your wonderful email. What a lucky girl you were getting to
ride Carbon Copy and being able to attend Joe Webb's training
I was a big fan
of Joe Webb also and I attended his first adult training school
in 1971. I later helped him put on some clinics in the North
I remember Bean-O..and
yes, it is funny you should mention that....I just got back from
the Celebration about 3 hours ago...and guess who I met over
there this year...Bean-O's only son -- his name is Allen "A.J."
Fleming, Jr. - he lives in Joplin, MO - he is a banker with
J.P.Morgan-Chase - and he has a son of Touch's Macho Man who is
by Mark of Carbon, by Carbon Copy. He has him in training with
Tom Burton in Springfield, MO and hopes he will become a top
showhorse. But what a very nice young man he is. He said he
comes to Dallas on business and he is going to come out here and
visit us the next time he's in the area. I would say Bean-O did
good!!!! He told me his dad is still living in Searcy, AR and
is 62 years old.
Thank you so much
Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your site, especially the WGC homepages and Carbon Copy's in particular. He is one of my favorite WGCs and my family is fortunate enough to own one of his daughters - Copy's Glowing Delight, or "Lo." She is a gorgeous bay mare foaled in 1989. I've attached a photo of
her. A couple of people have told us she looks just like her old man, including David Williams of Waterfall Farms. I never got to see Carbon Copy in person, unfortunately, so I can't tell you for sure or not whether that's true, but Lo is a very sweet old mare and still goes for rides every now and then. We are also hoping to
get one or two more babies out of her in the next year or two.
Thank you for keeping such a wonderful website.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:18 PM
Subject: Carbon Copy
Mary Ellen, we here in Montana are so proud of the Carbon Copy
mare we have, Copy's Shamrock. She has some age now, but still
looks like a young mare and with a foal this year! She really
is our pride and joy and such a lovely temperament. My daughter
Gina Kanzaki rode her in our parade last year, showing the mare
still has such style and class!
Thank you too, for a
great web page....
Marilyn Dolezal, Mountain Manor Ranch, Ronan, MT
----- Original Message -----
From: Lindsay Bowers
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: a long letter from Georgia
My name is Lindsay Harrison and live near Atlanta. I have been visiting the Walker's West website for a few years now. I have read many of the letters on the website, mainly the ones about Carbon Copy. I would like to share with you my story about a horse sired by Carbon Copy, because 15 years later I still miss my Danny.
Please forgive my uncertainty in details, but I was very young.
The story starts somewhere around Conyers GA with a couple going through a nasty divorce. The husband had the papers and the wife sold his prized TWH. I was three, when my mother brought a TWH named Dan home. That is, I only knew him as Dan. I attached a picture of that day in 1979. I believe Dan was around 7y/o at the time. He lived in our backyard in a middle class neighborhood until we moved into a larger place. Then he lived in the backyard of a nicer middle class neighborhood! I find it hilarious that there was no ordinance forbidding it. It certainly would not fly now.
One Saturday when I was around eight y/o my mother took Dan and me to an open multi-discipline show in Conyers GA at a farm just off of Salem Rd (the farm is now a stamp house subdivision) and registered me in an
English pleasure class. At that show, a man approached me while I was warming up on Dan and asked if he could borrow my horse. He went and got all sorts of equipment that I had never seen before and retacked my horse. Dan went to business and our mouths dropped. Dan was a smooth ride, but we had no idea he could walk out so beautifully. I have no clue who the man was, but he said he had trained our horse. He told us that he was sired by GLL's Carbon Copy. That is all that I remember. I never forgot that name and thanks to the wonderful internet, I finally found Carbon Copy.
Dan is the standard that all horses have to live up to in my eyes. I now own a BLM mustang and I inherited a TB, but they are no Dan. I dream of having another Dan. I cannot explain to you how much I loved that horse. For years my daily routine when I got home was to call him up, throw a lead rope on his halter and take him to a nice quiet spot. I would take a nap on his back while he grazed. I shamefully remember once when my sister saddle him up quickly for me. I got my stool out to mount him and he took his head and knocked me off my stool. He did this three times. I yelled at him and popped him. He then stood still. As soon as I put my weight into the stirrup, the saddle rolled under him. He didn't freak out or anything, but I felt so bad for not listening to him. I once had someone tell me that it is sad that one of my best friends growing up was a horse, but I do not think it is sad or strange. I know I was blessed.
Reading the stories about Carbon Copy, I think his personality and intelligence were passed on to my Dan. I wish I could tell you more and I would certainly love to know more about where he came from. I hope you enjoyed my story.
Thank you so much for your website and all the info on Carbon Copy and all the other fabulous examples of the breed.
I attached a few pictures that I still have of Dan and me. I also attached a current picture of me. I really enjoy endurance and CTR and I have had the
privilege to compete several Arabians for others in GA, FL, and SC. I am hoping to have my mustang ready this year for a 25 mile and see where that goes. My knee was damaged on a 100 mile CTR, so I am easing slowly back into the sport.
I would love to ride out one day with a Walker and show up all those people who think only Arabians are good enough to make top ten. Plus, my very green husband has been asking me to find a horse that he can ride too. My heart is set on a TWH. I have been eyeballing Carbon's Outta Touch since she was put on the sales list. If I can ever sucker someone into taking my TB off my hands, we will be talking.
Many blessings to you,
You were a mighty cute 3 year old..... And Dan looks like a Carbon Copy horse. The gentleness and sensibility of this breed never stops amazing me.... What a great horse he must have been. I wish you would have had the opportunity to get to know that man that rode your horse - you would no doubt have learned a lot about the breed....but then you've done that on your own it seems.
There are quite a few TWHs that have competed and won in endurance competition. They can do every bit as well, if not better, than an Arabian with the right training and the right rider.
Carbon Copy made such an impact on the breed...as did his trainer, Joe Web, who wrote the book "The Care and Training of the Tennessee Walking Horse." I went to Joe Web's first adult training class in 1971 at his barn in Searcy, AR. What a great experience that was. Got to ride a lot of great horse - got to know Joe Web and got a much greater appreciation for his training ability. He had worked with "Liberty" horses before getting involved in TWHs. Those are the circus horses that all run in a circle and then all rear on command, etc. He could go into a horse's stall, like Carbon Copy, - the horse would be at the back of the stall - he would say "Park out" and the horse would assume a parked out position, then he would say "ears" and the horses ears would come forward. It was really neat.
Yours is a great story - thanks for sending it.
Mary Ellen Areaux
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009
I grew up in Searcy and lived next door to Joe Webb in the late 50s.
I was born in Rodgers hospital and also treated by Dr Rodgers on a
few occasions prior to the sad latter years of his life. I lived
next to Joe and I believe his wife’s name was Nelda, on Market St
when their son Mike passed away. Really sad time. But Perfection and
Carbon Copy were awesome horses. A friend of mine bought a foal from
Carbon Copy. Never made it to the big times but the foal was
That's a great story and it's a small world - because here you
are in Dallas now.
I went to Joe Web's first Adult training school in 1971 and
learned so much. I later helped Joe put on clinics in Texas.
He was a real horseman and a real showman. The industry was so
luck to have had him as a trainer. He helped a lot of other
people get interested in the breed.
You will have to come out and visit us some time - we are just
30 miles east of downtown Dallas.
Mary Ellen Areaux
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